Filipino pop star Charice sat down with Oprah Winfrey for an upcoming episode of OWN’s Where Are They Now, where she discussed both her sexuality and her gender identity.
“Were you thinking about transitioning to become a male?,” Oprah asked Charice, who came out as a lesbian in 2012 and has been sporting a more butch appearance in the past year.
“Not exactly transitioning to a male, but basically my soul is like male,” she responded. “I’m not going to go through that stage where I’m going to change everything— not change my body. [But] I would change, like, my look: Cut my hair and wear boy clothes and everything”
Born Charice Pempengco, the 22-year-old says the coming out process started very early for her. “I knew [I was gay] when I was 5. I was in grade school and I saw this girl and I felt different,” she says. “I didn’t know what it was but I just knew that time, like it felt special. And when I was 10 I was like, “Oh, that’s it. I’m gay.” I found the word.”
After YouTube videos of her singing garnered more than 15 million views, she appeared on the Oprah Winfrey Show in 2010 to promote her self-titled debut album. The TV icon crowned her “the most talented girl in the world.”
After joining Glee as exchange student Sunshine Corazan, her profile rose even higher.
But after coming out, Charice eschewed the pigtails and dresses fans had seen her in.
“For me, in my heart, I’ve always wanted to be more edgy, more rock,” she said at the time. “I know some people think that this is very rebellious but it’s not. It’s just me evolving. It’s me transforming into another person that is [still] totally me.”
Below watch a preview from Oprah Winfrey Where Are They Now, airing Sunday at 9pm on OWN.